Thanks, bruceg. I understand all that, but if you read the above post the problem is we can't install Granular and it does not see the drives.

You're right. The bootloader has to be written to an attached writable drive. If the system doesn't "see" your writable drives, you can't write to them. And, Control Center (drakconf) is probably the easiest way to do it without using grub or lilo utils.

Hey guys, wow this is some bad news, but we'll get it fixed. I am back in town now, and will get out the assortment of hammers needed to get this thing back into shape.

Also yes, in a live environment you're going to have a hard time install a boot loader. But there is something you could try. And that is go ahead and install granular from the live cd as normal. Then before exiting or rebooting from the lived cd, and after the installation is complete. You could go into the control center and try reinstalling grub. But if it hangs as it did on firestorm it won't be of much help. But there is still a chance it may work on different machines.

And hopefully I'll have some answers after tonight. We'll keep you guys up to date, and thanks for the patience, and bug reporting.

Chris

Chris,

Didn't mention this in my earlier post, but it is very difficult to install at all with my configuration.  My drive WAS recognized but the installer kept changing the partitions to ext2.  When I finally got the install to work with ext3 partitions I had to delete all partitions then make some new ones.  Just telling the installer initially to use existing partitions or to "use entire drive" didn't work at all.  Of course, I could have used ext for / or /home, but I thought that might have been rather s l o w.

So, more info that you probably didn't want to hear.

Galjaman

 Welcome Back Chris, What you said about installing would be fine if it could see the drives and install, but mine can't see the drives so no install. I know you will have the answer soon.

Mark

Yep it's not seeing the sata stuff, and just to clarify that's what you guys are seeing right? 

Just for the hell of it, I downloaded Ubuntu 8.04.1 and installed on the same Dell Optiplex 210L system.

The install went fine a boots fine. The kernel version is 2.6.24-19-generic .

I had tried perviously to install Ubuntu 8.04 on an identical Optiplex 210L which had the same boot hang that experienced with RC1.

I wonder if maybe they are onto something with the 2.6.24.x series kernel and or Grub.

Just thought I'd pass this on in hopes of helping out.

Thanks for all of Team Granular's hard work!

replying to Chrisz:

'Yep it's not seeing the sata stuff, and just to clarify that's what you guys are seeing right?'

Yes, that's so for me and seems to be the problem for other guys.

Regards,

Arthur

Yes that's right

Yep the same here ....i've installed the Live CD on 2 older drives no problem ......just doesn't see the SATA derive

I recently tried the 1.0 RC as well and also got a kernel panic after trying to boot from the hard drive. As you may have guessed, my drives are SATA's. I haven't tested the work-around yet, as I installed FreeBSD on that drive in the meantime.
Perhaps later I'll set up my old comp and see if it works on there (it has an IDE drive). I'll let you guys know when I do that.

Yikes, if this problem is indeed the actual case, then this recent Multimedia Intel 64bit Quad-Core System and it's exclusive SATA HD and DVD Drives with the latest chipsets and drivers....may be sadly out of the loop for now. 
Maybe the workaround?

Yesterday, I downloaded the Preview version of Granular,
and it installed on my Dell Inspiron with only Sata drives.
My original upgrade of the Preview failed to install 'kdebase'
but did install hundreds of other updates.

Unfortunately, the required 'fglrx' driver for the ati video card
failed to install. The error message reported, 'Build failed'.
This 1440x900 monitor needs to be at 1440x900 or it doesn't look good.

I refer you to my previous post, chris4 Reply #18,
for my comments
about the need for an 'irqpoll' parameter to the kernel statement
on several other distros installed on this machine, the Dell.

chris4

There's a 4 page discussion on the PCL forum here:

http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=58&topic=47708.0

Perhaps some pertinent info is included or a clue to help solve the issue?  Don't know.  All I can say with any assurance is that I can't install the RC, and that we know for certain there is a bug.

Galjaman

Hi Folks,
While idly waiting for a 'proper' cure to the non-recognition of some SATA controllers (including mine!) I thought I'd try a mess around and picked up on the discussion of using, or not, the 'all-generic-ide' parameter in the  grub menu kernel line. I just added noapic (needed for my ASUS M2N motherboard) and all-generic-ide to the end of the kernel parameters line when booting the live cd. On trying an install, I was pleased to see it no longer said I had no usable space and the install proceeded (a bit). I selected a suitable partition (with an unwanted distro - no names! - on and proceeded to the next stage. This said the format failed, but as it was already ext3 formatted I carried on. The distro appeared to install, but when I examined the partition, it hadn't written anything to it and the old distro was intact. I then tried again, but reformatted the (same) partition (in another distro, Mepis 8 beta as it happens, but I'm sure that's irrelevant) and this time the install went to completion with all stages (bootloader install, users) and - whoopee - it seems to be running fine, writing this (overlong) post from Granular as you can see.

Probably not the best way to proceed, but some of you with the same problem might like to try it?
Other hardware components: AMD Athlon64 3500+, mb uses nVidia 430 chipset, nVidia 7300 graphics card

Apologies again for a long-winded post,

Arthur