redphoenix on November 15, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
Okay so it happened again while I was trying to write this.
I don't know if this only happens in KDE, but I haven't tested in other interfaces.
Sometimes pressing Ctrl+Z to undo twice in Blender doesn't undo.  Instead it causes your session to immediately terminate.  Under certain conditions, using Extrude Region yields the same result.  This is what I will show how to reproduce.

I'm using Granular Funworks 2007.

how to reproduce:
(to avoid confusion, I say 'hit' for buttons on the keyboard and 'push' or 'click' for on-screen buttons)
1) open Blender in KDE (doesn't matter which one - DRI disabled, FullScreen, normal, wutev.)
2) hit Tab.  gray square in the middle turns pink with yellow border.
3) in the toolbar just below the section with the pink square in it, push the second to last button that has a little picture of a cube in it.
4) move your cursor into the dark gray gridded region with the square in the middle and hit the A key.  the square turns blue with black outline, pink corners.
5) hold Ctrl and the left mouse button and drag around the blue square until the dotted line surrounds it.  it should turn pink with yellow outlines again.
6) hit 1 on the number pad (NOT the 1 key above Tab and Q.  on my laptop, this requires me to hold Fn while hitting the J key).  the square turns blue agan, but now the outline is yellow on top and black with pink corners on bottom.
7) make sure your cursor is still somewhere in the dark gray gridded region.  Now hit the E key and select Region in the Extrude menu that pops up.  It should already be highlighted, so click it and watch what happens.  If it's the same as what happens to me, your session will immediately and abruptly terminate and you will return to the logon screen.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 10:27:13 PM by redphoenix »

Merlin Whitewolf on November 15, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
Which kernel version are you using?

Merlin

redphoenix on November 15, 2007, 02:36:55 PM
drr... what?

I thought there was only one.

Merlin Whitewolf on November 15, 2007, 04:33:07 PM
Open Synaptic, click reload and when that has finished, click Search and enter 'kernel' (without the quotes). Click search. You'll see the kernel you have installed (2.6.18, I believe). There is a newer kernel available, 2.6.22-10; install it. Check for an update to blender and install it. Reboot and choose the new kernel from the grub menu. Test blender.

Merlin

Anurag Bhandari on November 15, 2007, 07:03:06 PM
Open Synaptic, click reload and when that has finished, click Search and enter 'kernel' (without the quotes). Click search. You'll see the kernel you have installed (2.6.18, I believe). There is a newer kernel available, 2.6.22-10; install it. Check for an update to blender and install it. Reboot and choose the new kernel from the grub menu. Test blender.

Merlin

Or wait for Granular's own version of the Linux kernel to be released.

redphoenix on November 15, 2007, 10:18:34 PM
Open Synaptic, click reload and when that has finished, click Search and enter 'kernel' (without the quotes). Click search. You'll see the kernel you have installed (2.6.18, I believe). There is a newer kernel available, 2.6.22-10; install it. Check for an update to blender and install it. Reboot and choose the new kernel from the grub menu. Test blender.

Merlin
Done.
The problem wasn't solved, and I can't access the internet from the new kernel.  I probably just need to re-enter the encryption code, though.

Merlin Whitewolf on November 15, 2007, 10:57:40 PM
As Anurag said,
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... wait for Granular's own version of the Linux kernel to be released.
I believe it won't be long now. ;D


Anurag Bhandari on November 16, 2007, 03:58:01 AM
As Anurag said,
Quote
... wait for Granular's own version of the Linux kernel to be released.
I believe it won't be long now. ;D



Yup, Chris is working hard on it. :)

redphoenix on November 16, 2007, 10:39:13 PM
Now I've found that the GIMP crashes when I try to stroke a path.

Why is FunWorks so unstable?  I never had a single problem ever in the previous version.  I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't have upgraded.  Of course it could be that both programs (referring here to Blender 2.44-2.45 and the GIMP 2.3) are to blame, but I've also never ever had a problem with previous versions of the GIMP on Windows or Granular Linux.  I wouldn't even worry about it if it were just freak occurrences that occasionally slow me down, but we're talking about key functions that are necessary for what I do in these applications.  It's incapacitating.

Anurag Bhandari on November 17, 2007, 03:18:00 AM
redphoenix, we have tested all the applications for stability, extensively, on different machines. And the result was always PASS. I don't know what it could be in your case which is making these crash, or it could be just due to the fact that GIMP's unstable version is installed.

It would be helpful for us to investigate into this matter further if you could mention any information about the crashes you recently faced.

Merlin Whitewolf on November 17, 2007, 03:20:59 PM
Which version of the gimp do you have installed? Have you installed any plugins?

I'm using 2.4.1 with no problems. I have had no problems with the previous versions, going back to 1.something (going on memory here).

redphoenix on November 18, 2007, 02:35:33 AM
I have 2.3, which came with FunWorks.  No plugins installed, at least not by me.  I haven't experienced problems with .1 or .2 either.  Maybe I'll install the latest version.  I'm going to try it on the older kernel and see if I get the same results.  Maybe the problem is with my machine or its settings or something.  I dunno.  I'm not doing anything different from before.  If the problem persists, I'll just downgrade and wait until Granular's own kernel is released and hope that fixes the problem.  This is very odd.  I always have the oddest problems...

When I upgraded to funworks, I just used the exact same partitions I had the previous version on, without resizing them. / is 31GB, swap is 3.8GB, and /home is 7.8GB.  Do any of those seem too small?  Could that be causing problems?  I don't notice my system running any slower than usual.

EDIT> same problem on older kernel
EDIT2> upgraded to latest version of GIMP
problem solved
« Last Edit: November 18, 2007, 03:05:07 AM by redphoenix »

Merlin Whitewolf on November 18, 2007, 05:10:54 AM
7.8GB for /home? That's pretty small. 31GB for /? That's too big! The opposite would be better. :)

Anurag Bhandari on November 18, 2007, 06:44:18 AM
But anyway, this partition scheme should produce no errors, and it did not, as the actual fault was in the version of GIMP installed, as reported by redphoenix.

redphoenix on November 18, 2007, 08:20:47 AM
7.8GB for /home? That's pretty small. 31GB for /? That's too big! The opposite would be better. :)
:o Oh crap I didn't even realize I accidentally switched the two when I installed FW.  Well I use the root account almost exclusively, and doesn't / hold the OS, applications, and root's files?  And /home is just for other accounts, right?  To which partition does Granular go for resources?